Enhanced Seatbelt Law for Colorado

[CEO Council]

We would like to thank the Democrat Controlled General Assembly of
Colorado for being courageous to put forth a bill (House Bill 1138).
Advocates for Highway and Auto Safety (http://www.saferoads.org),
California Highway Patrol, International Chiefs of Police and other
organizations especially corporate executives applaud members of the
General Assembly for making a decision to put forth a law that will be
good for all Coloradoans regardless whether they want it or not. This
idea of rugged individualism and personal choice counter's Society's
views including that driving is a privilege, not a right annd Society
can determine at their whim who can drive and who cannot. It is time
to put the word privilege back into driving.

We ask that everyone contact the Colorado Assembly and demand this
legislation be passed ! (http://www.leg.state.co.us) Also ask the
General Assembly for a motorcycle helmet law as well. Free spirit
ideals are counter to the vision of Society especially the CEO
Council.

[Laura Bush murdered her boy friend]

Hey why don't they legalize drunk driving while they're at it??.
Killing people with your car is cool.

[X***@spamgourmet.com]

I think so. To bad I don't live in your neighborhood; I'd love to do
the tax payers a favor and mow your worthless ass over. But then again,
you're not worth having to have the car repaired over. Maybe an old
beater pick-up with a concrete-fill brush bar?
How's it going, loser?

[Larry Bud]

Post by X***@spamgourmet.com
I think so. To bad I don't live in your neighborhood; I'd love to do
the tax payers a favor and mow your worthless ass over. But then again,
you're not worth having to have the car repaired over. Maybe an old
beater pick-up with a concrete-fill brush bar?
How's it going, loser?

We'll all chip in to fix your car... better yet, buy a beater for $200
and take her out with that.

I'm sure a jury would let you off. All we have to do is gather all the
ridiculous posts the bitch has made over the years. They'll wonder why
she wasn't knocked off sooner.

[X***@spamgourmet.com]

I hadn't thought about a beater; good idea! Hey Judy, if you're reading
this, can I borrow your car for a few minutes?
Never a better definition of the term "Justifiable homicide." :-D

[Paul Tiger]

Post by X***@spamgourmet.com
I hadn't thought about a beater; good idea! Hey Judy, if you're reading
this, can I borrow your car for a few minutes?
Never a better definition of the term "Justifiable homicide." :-D

my old ford pickup (26 years old) has some rust spots. maybe their not
really rust spots. hard to tell. but if you lay down in the road i can drive
right over you and never touch. care to test?

[Michael Fierro]

Post by CEO Council
idea of rugged individualism and personal choice counter's Society's
views including that driving is a privilege, not a right annd Society

That's exactly right. Driving is a privilege, not a right. When you get
behind the wheel of a car, you effect not just yourself but others on the
road with you. If you have your own private road that no one else drives
on, then feel free to drive however you want on it. But if you're on the
same road that other people are on, then you'd damned well better follow
the rules of the road.

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[Brent P]

Post by Michael Fierro

Post by CEO Council
idea of rugged individualism and personal choice counter's Society's
views including that driving is a privilege, not a right annd Society

That's exactly right. Driving is a privilege, not a right. When you get
behind the wheel of a car, you effect not just yourself but others on the
road with you. If you have your own private road that no one else drives
on, then feel free to drive however you want on it. But if you're on the
same road that other people are on, then you'd damned well better follow
the rules of the road.

Privilege not a right has been used to basically suspend the bill of
rights if we use a motor vehicle. Not to mention any sort of public or
private transportation. Because people have become so accustomed to
giving up their rights while using motorized transporation, it is slowly
be extended to walking as well. Thusly IMO is is a very poor arguement to
use for seatbelt laws.

Seatbelt use should simply be the same as the use of any other piece of
equipment required on a motor vehicle. Using headlamps at night, using
wipers when needed, using mirrors before changing lanes. It's an
equipment issue. Nothing more or less. It's a piece of equipment to keep
occupants in their place and that's the reason it should be used. Not
because our right of choice becomes suspended whenever some possible
impact on others can be drawn.

[gpsman]

Brent P wrote: <brevity snip>

Post by Brent P
Seatbelt use should simply be the same as the use of any other piece of
equipment required on a motor vehicle. Using headlamps at night, using
wipers when needed, using mirrors before changing lanes. It's an
equipment issue. Nothing more or less. It's a piece of equipment to keep
occupants in their place and that's the reason it should be used. Not
because our right of choice becomes suspended whenever some possible
impact on others can be drawn.

I used to agree with you... until the Supplemental Restraint System
(SRS) became mandated. Seatbelt laws are a necessary evil because not
enough people are smart enough to use them. These are the same
non-thinkers that crash into shit and get killed.

Thanks to them airbags were rushed to be made mandatory to punch us in
the face or break our arms during a collision.

And, it could be argued that keeping a numbnuts in their seat during a
collision/loss of control would assist them in regaining control or, at
least, reducing the loss of control... but not by me.
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- gpsman

[Larry Bud]

Post by gpsman
Brent P wrote: <brevity snip>

Post by Brent P
Seatbelt use should simply be the same as the use of any other

piece

Post by gpsman
of

Post by Brent P
equipment required on a motor vehicle. Using headlamps at night,

using

Post by Brent P
wipers when needed, using mirrors before changing lanes. It's an
equipment issue. Nothing more or less. It's a piece of equipment to

keep

Post by Brent P
occupants in their place and that's the reason it should be used. Not
because our right of choice becomes suspended whenever some

possible

Post by gpsman

Post by Brent P
impact on others can be drawn.

I used to agree with you... until the Supplemental Restraint System
(SRS) became mandated. Seatbelt laws are a necessary evil because not
enough people are smart enough to use them. These are the same
non-thinkers that crash into shit and get killed.

Why in the world do we want the stupid shits of this country to
survive?

Those bad drivers are going to crash whether they're wearing a seat
belt or not.

[Paul Tiger]

Post by gpsman
Brent P wrote: <brevity snip>

Post by Brent P
Seatbelt use should simply be the same as the use of any other piece

of

Post by Brent P
equipment required on a motor vehicle. Using headlamps at night,

using

Post by Brent P
wipers when needed, using mirrors before changing lanes. It's an
equipment issue. Nothing more or less. It's a piece of equipment to

keep

Post by Brent P
occupants in their place and that's the reason it should be used. Not
because our right of choice becomes suspended whenever some possible
impact on others can be drawn.

I used to agree with you... until the Supplemental Restraint System
(SRS) became mandated. Seatbelt laws are a necessary evil because not
enough people are smart enough to use them. These are the same
non-thinkers that crash into shit and get killed.
Thanks to them airbags were rushed to be made mandatory to punch us in
the face or break our arms during a collision.

SRS - aka airbags are a crock. in smashups that are hard enough to kill
people airbags are worth shit. they don't protect you from the side (even
with side bags). they don't prevent you from being ejected. if your car
rolls they don't do shit either.

wear a belt or die - your choice

Post by gpsman
And, it could be argued that keeping a numbnuts in their seat during a
collision/loss of control would assist them in regaining control or, at
least, reducing the loss of control... but not by me.
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- gpsman

[John David Galt]

How does this law help anybody other than the individual who is forced
to belt in?

I say, let natural selection take its course. Colorado and especially
Boulder have more than enough stupid people already.

[Bob Lutz]

How does this law help anybody other than the individual who is forced to
belt in?
I say, let natural selection take its course. Colorado and especially
Boulder have more than enough stupid people already.

Well, it DOES have Boulder in the crossposted groups... that explains a
lot of it. The People's Republic of Boulder is why you can't smoke
anymore in Colorado.

Hey, the cops have to eat too :)

[Paul Tiger]

Post by Bob Lutz

How does this law help anybody other than the individual who is forced to
belt in?
I say, let natural selection take its course. Colorado and especially
Boulder have more than enough stupid people already.

Well, it DOES have Boulder in the crossposted groups... that explains a
lot of it. The People's Republic of Boulder is why you can't smoke
anymore in Colorado.

nope, that started in Aspic, then Denver, then the PRB

Post by Bob Lutz
Hey, the cops have to eat too :)